I never said first shift starts at 8 a.m. I am defining first shift as starting anywhere between 7 a.m. and about 9:30 a.m. I am just surprised that anyone who starts work at 9 a.m. would get up at 8 a.m. I need way more time than that to get ready unless I've done a lot of pre-planning the night before. I know some people who have commutes of 1 to 1.5 hours, too, so getting up at 8 a.m. for a 9 a.m. start time is definitely not feasible.